# New Fairphone 4

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**Created:** [September 13, 2021, 3:20pm UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680 "2021-09-13T15:20:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kees](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/kees/32/8442_2.png) [@Kees](https://tzm.one/u/Kees)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 3:20pm UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/1 "2021-09-13T15:20:14Z")

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In case you don’t know. The Fairphone is a phone made in #nl and has a modular design. This allows easy hardware fixes and upgrades. For example the Fairphone 3 got a camera module upgrade during its lifetime. So no need to buy a new phone just for a new camera. They also promise software support for 5 years. The “fair” in Fairphone also means they use sustainable sources for their products and make sure workers have fair working conditions.

Below is a leak of some unconfirmed pictures. It looks kinda nice. Although I’ve never been a fan of the notch/punch hole design. Especially here, where they also still have a bezel at the top. Kinda defeats the purpose.

Anyway, seems like Fairphone is becoming a more capable phone and improved its looks (it was worse before). Release date is unconfirmed, but it’s suspected to be this year.

> **[Fairphone novelty (novelties?) to come on 30 September 2021](https://forum.fairphone.com/t/fairphone-novelty-novelties-to-come-on-30-september-2021/74993/225)**
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> I found some more details, even the first pictures (…?) source: https://www.toppreise.ch/produktsuche?q=Fairphone+4&cid= EDIT: Here are larger pictures: F4FPHN-2DG-EU1 F4FPHN-2GR-EU1 F4FPHN-1DG-EU1

 ![F4FPHN-2DG-EU1](https://tzm.one/uploads/default/original/1X/047bcecdd88fd391a43080067543e172abdb07f3.jpeg)  
 ![Fairphone-4-5G-1632564176-0-4](https://tzm.one/uploads/default/original/1X/760e4b6ae45017413d34a03f2b612a3ad7cdd753.png)

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**Author:** ![mistahd33](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/mistahd33/32/773_2.png) [@mistahd33](https://tzm.one/u/mistahd33)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 8:43am UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/2 "2021-09-14T08:43:10Z")

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Been watching Fairphone for a long time, it’s definitely getting better, I think my next one will be a Fairphone.  
Was absolutely devastated when phoneblocks / project ara got canned. At least Fairphone are attempting to fill that space to some extent.

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**Author:** ![Kees](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/kees/32/8442_2.png) [@Kees](https://tzm.one/u/Kees)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 8:53am UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/3 "2021-09-14T08:53:23Z")

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Same here. Ara looked really nice and also facilitated community build modules. Opening up a path for open-source hardware. I do hope Fairphone will improve on the software aspect. They don’t provide the latest Android versions. The Fairphone 3 had the same camera sensor as the Google Pixel 3a. But instead of improving the camera software, Fairphone offered a camera module upgrade.

Software upgrades are more sustainable than hardware upgrades (unless broken of course). And Android 11 provides better memory management, which is particular of interest for phones with 4GB or less (like Fairphone). But they still are on [older versions](https://code.fairphone.com/projects/fairphone-2-official-releases.html). Android 12 will be released in a month or so, which again comes with performance and privacy upgrades. But maybe this will change with the FP4.

Welcome to the forum by the way! 🎉

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**Author:** ![mistahd33](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/mistahd33/32/773_2.png) [@mistahd33](https://tzm.one/u/mistahd33)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 10:17am UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/4 "2021-09-14T10:17:21Z")

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Cheers. 🙂 Yeah that’s always been the issue with FP.. it’s always so far behind ☹ Hoping with enough traction and support they can eventually overcome this.

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**Author:** ![Kees](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/kees/32/8442_2.png) [@Kees](https://tzm.one/u/Kees)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 11:08am UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/5 "2021-09-17T11:08:16Z")

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Hope so too! By the way, please consider to leave an introduction in the thread below 🙂

> [@Global chapters & introduce yourself waving\_hand](https://tzm.one/t/global-tzm-chapters-map-introduce-yourself/111):
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**Author:** ![Kees](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/kees/32/8442_2.png) [@Kees](https://tzm.one/u/Kees)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 11:56am UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/6 "2021-09-17T11:56:14Z")

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The release might be in 12 days 🙂

[https://event.fairphone.com/](https://event.fairphone.com/)

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**Author:** ![Kees](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/kees/32/8442_2.png) [@Kees](https://tzm.one/u/Kees)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/7 "2021-09-26T17:08:23Z")

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Some more pics leaked.

> **[Fairphone 4: Marketing-Bilder zeigen "faires" 5G-Smartphone vorab](https://winfuture.de/news,125414.html)**
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> Die niederländische Firma Fairphone will in Kürze ihr erstes 5G-fähiges Modell eines "fair" produzierten und vom Nutzer wei­test­ge­hend selbst reparierbaren Smartphones vorstellen. Nach­dem kürz­lich erste Spezifikationen auftauchten, haben wir nun...

It’s suspected the chipset will be the Qualcomm 750G, which is okayish. It doesn’t have full WiFi-6 support, it’s WiFi-6 ready. It will still work fine, probably. But it’s a bit mehhh.

There are also rumors of wireless earbuds to be released on the same day, from Fairphone. So that means probably modular earbuds, where you can swap out e.g. the batteries when they wear out.

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**Author:** ![Kees](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/kees/32/8442_2.png) [@Kees](https://tzm.one/u/Kees)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 12:11pm UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/8 "2021-09-27T12:11:55Z")

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> **[The makers of the Fairphone are reportedly making sustainable wireless earbuds](https://www.xda-developers.com/fairphone-working-on-truly-wireless-earbuds/)**
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> According to a new leak, Fairphone is working on a pair of affordable truly wireless earbuds that will launch alongside the Fairphone 4 5G.

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**Author:** ![Kees](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/kees/32/8442_2.png) [@Kees](https://tzm.one/u/Kees)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 11:14am UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/10 "2021-09-29T11:14:08Z")

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Modularity is awesome!

 ![FAcnDcyWQAURWGE](https://tzm.one/uploads/default/original/1X/3584aa22be955fa24bbe4396d09e27a4fdad7874.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Kees](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/kees/32/8442_2.png) [@Kees](https://tzm.one/u/Kees)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 10:32am UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/11 "2021-09-30T10:32:35Z")

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[![](https://tzm.one/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f298d797f2220b505642b30d9672880ede42ac4c.jpeg "Fairphone Livestream: The NEXT LEVEL OF FAIR") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9AmBF75xvA)

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**Author:** ![Kees](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/kees/32/8442_2.png) [@Kees](https://tzm.one/u/Kees)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 11:03am UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/12 "2021-09-30T11:03:39Z")

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> **[Fairphone 4 | Verbeterde camera. Betere prijs.](https://shop.fairphone.com/nl/fairphone-4)**
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> Een toekomstbestendige, alternatieve telefoon die zich onderscheidt én onwijs krachtig is. Nu met verbeterde camerasoftware.

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**Author:** ![Kees](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/kees/32/8442_2.png) [@Kees](https://tzm.one/u/Kees)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 4:00pm UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/13 "2021-10-10T16:00:52Z")

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A list of retailers to buy the Fairphone 4:

> **[✏ List of Fairphone 4 Resellers](https://forum.fairphone.com/t/list-of-fairphone-4-resellers/77080?u=uppercase)**
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> The following is a list of resellers selling the FP4 by country + prices. It is a wiki so feel free to add your findings. The official list on the Fairphone website can be found here: https://shop.fairphone.com/en/where-to-buy Legend: 🌐…...

Camera quality of the phone:

[![](https://tzm.one/uploads/default/original/2X/c/c7f4c2073acbf9b80b1336eb9e5a44e59ab70aef.jpeg "Fairphone 4 Kamera-Kurztest Bild- und Videoqualität") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9acJfslfL4)

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**Author:** ![Kees](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/kees/32/8442_2.png) [@Kees](https://tzm.one/u/Kees)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/14 "2021-10-12T04:25:37Z")

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Last video to promote this great project 🙂

[![](https://tzm.one/uploads/default/original/2X/3/3e0bb8c5ce0c4e663f5f7075d5bbf1db89c60bee.jpeg "The Anti-iPhone - Fairphone 4") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1v3ZmfV_hw)

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**Author:** ![Kees](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/kees/32/8442_2.png) [@Kees](https://tzm.one/u/Kees)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 7:36am UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/15 "2021-12-15T07:36:29Z")

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I wrote a review in Dutch. Of course a translation engine can easily fix this to English or other languages.

> **[Fairphone 4, 8GB ram, 256GB opslag Grijs - UPPERKEES - Product reviews - ...](https://tweakers.net/productreview/277854/fairphone-4-8gb-ram-grijs.html)**

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**Author:** ![system](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/system/32/2813_2.png) [@system](https://tzm.one/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 7:36am UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/16 "2022-06-13T07:36:38Z")

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**Author:** ![Kees](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/kees/32/8442_2.png) [@Kees](https://tzm.one/u/Kees)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 10:16am UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/17 "2022-08-23T10:16:43Z")

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 10:16am UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/18 "2022-08-23T10:16:55Z")

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[![](https://tzm.one/uploads/default/original/2X/5/5877134f71a18a4e101cd3fc30f958a5cc82be62.jpeg "Fairphone 4 Smartphone Score Summary | DXOMARK") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOoWCkIr9Lw)

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**Author:** ![anon10508507](https://tzm.one/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@anon10508507](https://tzm.one/u/anon10508507)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/19 "2023-06-08T17:12:59Z")

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I did buy a (polish) hammer 2, construction phone. Waterproof and shocksteady. This i found yesterday: a phone with solar panels; [Zonnepaneel voorziet Xiaomi smartphone van volle batterij | LetsGoDigital](https://nl.letsgodigital.org/smartphones/xiaomi-mobiele-telefoon-solar-oplader/)

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**Author:** ![Kees](https://tzm.one/user_avatar/tzm.one/kees/32/8442_2.png) [@Kees](https://tzm.one/u/Kees)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/20 "2023-06-08T17:26:17Z")

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Rugged devices for sure help as well, a solar cell looks cool too. But are they also repairable when it does get damaged, broken or when the battery wears out? I personally think that’s most important. The FP4 passed the MIL810G drop test, which is also used for some military equipment. That should cover the needs for most. Unless you work in construction and jobs like that.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://tzm.one/t/new-fairphone-4/7680/21 "2023-06-08T21:44:24Z")

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i heared you can put ubuntu-touch on a fairphone pretty easely: [https://ubuntu-touch.io/](https://ubuntu-touch.io/) (it´s a linux system, pretty reliable and safe. just sometimes a bit a hassle, as such is life 😃

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