[INVALID] An Open Letter to the Zeitgeist Movement: Embrace Your Progressive Socialist Roots

I responded to that counterargument. I support the RBE primarily, but I do believe that we can inspire from Eco-socialism. It’s described in the Humanist Socialist Thought:


I have reservations about Beyond Meat and other plant-derived meats. And so do the other critics:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/15/business/beyond-meat-impossible-emissions.html

If you grow all the plants in monocultures and monsanto seeds, then the emissions reduction will be lower than plant-derived meat companies say, realistically.

And I don’t like how they put their ingredients on the front. It’s obviously PR:

The actual list of ingredients is here:

From a health perspective, not very good.

Also, they largely make only beef, but we eat more poultry than beef (and personally, I mostly never have eaten beef):

To close the loop, we need to agree to the following contract:

  • We collectively don’t know what works and what doesn’t exactly, besides what has been tested. We leave it to the judgement of others.
  • We are neutral to systems, judging from case-by-case basis. Systems which are not eligible for case-by-case basis evaluation are broad generalizations like socialism and communism.
  • Some systems, despite that they are all theory, are better than others.
  • Regardless of what system we use, we strive for the same goal: maximizing the quality of life of all humans.
  • Capitalism prioritizes profits over people, no question. As for other systems, we refer to the case-by-case evaluation.

Since this thread is basically a continuation of the topic below, I’ll close this one.